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Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:59 pm Post

Does it seem that Keith is getting just a wee bit cocky? Look at some of the "wish list" requests. The man never comes right out and says "That is one of the dumbest, most useless, most self-centeredly redundant friggin' wastes of time I've ever heard and I refuse even to consider it." No, what he says, in his languid Christopher Hitchensesque voice, is "Thought about that, but didn't feel like working on it," or "Maybe in 2.583," or "Tried it, didn't like it," or the ever-popular "We can't because of underlying <insert techtalk> limitations of OS."

Conclusion: The man is not being challenged hard enough.

I propose a contest. Who can devise the most difficult, most ridiculous, most unlikely feature request for Scrivener? The rules:

It must be something which -- given time and resources and patience enough -- actually could be implemented.

It cannot be something for which Ioa has already devised an esoteric script.

It cannot already have been requested.

Gain points if it's something no one else would ever want.

Lose points if a generalized practical use can be found.

And -- here's the killer -- it must be defined in 15 words or less.

(I came up with a couple myself, but had to discard them. Each, upon careful scrutiny, showed faint traces of practicality.)

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Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:17 pm Post

Idiots'/Dummies' Guide to Scriv 1.0's Tutorial. (non-geeky short words version).<-- This version hasn't already been requested.
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Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:48 pm Post

Bonus points for the most hours of programming expended while saving the fewest microseconds of writer effort.

Triple bonus points if the saving involves an inability to subtract words written from words needing to be written.

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Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:17 pm Post

When I'm writing I sometimes listen to music. I hereby request a feature in Scrivener that will monitor the tracks I'm playing in iTunes in the background, derive my mood from it (genius can do it, why can't Scrivener?) and auto-suggest thesaurus words that match that mood while I'm typing. Scriv should also tint the paper of the text in this session with a 'mood hue'.

If I decide my mood is not what it was, or that a better mood would have been more appropriate for the story, Scrivener should allow me to context click on the section, and select a different mood hue. It should then go back and either optionally one-by-one, or automatically 'for all' update all those words with suitable alternatives that best fit the selected mood.

This is obviously a killer feature missing from Scriv and if it's not implemented then I think L&L are risking losing masses of potential customers as a result. I can't believe anyone would be so stupid as to think that was a good thing to do and I HATE the fact that Scrivener is so close yet so far away from perfection as I see it. This is such an OBVIOUS feature that nobody would OBJECTIVELY disagree with it and if they do they are IDIOTS :x

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Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:05 pm Post

I have three feature requests matching the requirements above:

1. Fiction template should be a complete novel that users only have to edit the title.
2. Animated cartoon characters that berate you for bad grammar or procrastination.
3. Scrivener liscense should include gaurantee of publishing and distribution by a major publisher.

I imagine these features are so obviously lacking in Scrivener that they are already planned.

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Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:45 pm Post

vic-k wrote:Idiots'/Dummies' Guide to Scriv 1.0's Tutorial. (non-geeky short words version).

Much-needed, of course, and therefore in violation of both spirit and letter of by-laws.
Ahab wrote:Bonus points for the most hours of programming expended while saving the fewest microseconds of writer effort.

Perfect. Guaranteed to put the grump back in grumpy.
Eddy wrote:When I'm writing I sometimes listen to music. I hereby request a feature in Scrivener that will monitor the tracks I'm playing in iTunes in the background, derive my mood.... Scriv should also tint the paper of the text in this session with a 'mood hue'.

Quite promising, but much too long. Can you reframe it within the mandated 15 word limit?
mxleop wrote:1. Fiction template should be a complete novel that users only have to edit the title.
2. Animated cartoon characters that berate you for bad grammar or procrastination.
3. Scrivener liscense should include gaurantee of publishing and distribution by a major publisher.

One is altogether too easy, unless you stipulate that each novel must be different. Number two is interesting, but, like number one, may have just a bit too much general appeal and therefore will lose many bonus points. Number three may not be possible; perhaps if you require textual analysis which selects the most appropriate agent and/or publisher, we can consider it.

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Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:25 pm Post

PLEASE USE MORE ALL CAPS IN THESE REQUESTS. IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO JUDGE HOW IMPORTANT THEY ARE TO YOU, IF THEY ARE WRITTEN IN PROPER CASE.
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Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:36 pm Post

IN EDIT SCRIVENINGS MODE SHOW REAL TIME, ROT 12 OBFUSCATED FORUM UPDATES AS BACKGROUND.

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USE VIC-K POSTS AS WRITING PAPER BACKGROUND. UPDATE FROM FORUM DAILY.
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Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:53 pm Post

For an extra-extra bonus, be sure to make a point of telling me that Scrivener is very close to being the perfect tool for screenwriters, and with the feature you are suggesting (and the ten that will follow it), Scrivener would be adopted by "professionals" in the "industry". ;)
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Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:24 pm Post

And don't forget the snarky and/or patronizing comments about how pathetically limited and horribly overpriced Scrivener is, especially because it doesn't have X feature. (Even though the programs that do have X feature cost orders of magnitude more.)

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Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:33 pm Post

BUILT IN +3 CONVERSATION GENERATOR THAT INSERTS TEXT INTO MANUSCRIPT. USE RANDOM INSERTION POINT.
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Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:54 pm Post

EXPONENTIALLY ADD COMPLEX GRAMMAR TO DIALOG UNTIL NEW "NON-HUMAN" GRAMMAR IS CREATED FOR SCI-FI WORKS. ENSURE IT WORKS ONLY IN SCREENWRITING MODE.
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Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:18 pm Post

RANDOMLY INSERT "NO IPAD VERSION" INTO TEXT WHEN EVER USER THINKS ABOUT AN IPAD/IPOD/IPHONE/I<BLAH> DEVICE.

I am counting all that i<crap> as one word.
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Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:18 pm Post

Jaysen wrote:BUILT IN +3 CONVERSATION GENERATOR THAT INSERTS TEXT INTO MANUSCRIPT. USE RANDOM INSERTION POINT.


Already mostly implemented!
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Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:26 pm Post

AmberV wrote:
Jaysen wrote:BUILT IN +3 CONVERSATION GENERATOR THAT INSERTS TEXT INTO MANUSCRIPT. USE RANDOM INSERTION POINT.


Already mostly implemented!

But it is not really random. This function should be able to span documents to actually insert the text in a document that is not currently open or in view. Additionally the function should do a vic-k type thing and set the font for the inserted text to match the background color. Don't forget that the function needs to intelligently (or as intelligently and the +3 every behave) off topic the prose at that point of insertion. Some basic level of AI will be required. Might I recommend Lisp (which brings up an interesting medical cruelty that those who suffer from this condition can not actually say it).
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