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Re: AMERICANS! Please help...

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:33 pm
by rdale
pigfender wrote:If it's not immediately known, would you get the meaning from the context? For example:

"Try to back now and I'll screw you to the wall, and use him as a rawlplug."

I don't get enough context from your contextual example to say whether I could figure it out; "I'll screw you to the wall, and use him as a rawlplug." I can't figure out the causal link between screwing "you" to the wall and "him" being used as a rawlplug, so all I have to go on is "use him as a rawlplug", which really only gives me information based on the the word "rawlplug", which has "plug" in it. So I'm back to just trying to figure out what the word "rawlplug" might mean, without contextual help.

If you said, "I'll screw you to the wall and make you watch me take take a core sample out of his skull and use it as a rawlplug for my boat!" then I'd guess that a scientist was making the threat to do (likely fatal) surgery on someone "you" care about using his/her field equipment, and use the cylindrical bone fragment as a plug a hole in the threatening person's houseboat. But I'm guessing that's pretty far afield from what you're going for. :P

Re: AMERICANS! Please help...

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:47 pm
by pigfender
Okay. Thanks all!

Okay, for the purposes of this draft at least, I'll make a virtue of the obscurity.

‘I’m serious, gents,’ says Easton. ‘There’s not going to be any kind of plea bargain on this one. Try and back out and I will absolutely screw you to the wall and use him as a rawlplug.’
‘What does that even mean?’
‘Yeah!’ says Roy. ‘What’s a rawlplug?’
‘It means that if you back out I’ll...

Re: AMERICANS! Please help...

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:57 pm
by lunk
"It means if you back out I'll take a hammer drill and drill a 10 mm hole in a concrete wall, use a part of him as a rawlplug to plug the hole, and then screw you to the wall with a 4" screw."

Hmm... lesson learnt? Don't use specialized craftsmen to deliver physical threats.

Re: AMERICANS! Please help...

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 10:20 pm
by garpu
pigfender wrote:
If it's not immediately known, would you get the meaning from the context? For example:

"Try to back now and I'll screw you to the wall, and use him as a rawlplug."


Not immediately known, no. And from your example, I'm not sure if it's a type of drywall spackle or a sex toy. :twisted:

ETA: Oh, you mean a screw anchor? (I can hear the giggles now.)

Re: AMERICANS! Please help...

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:35 pm
by Jaysen
garpu wrote:screw anchor

I dont' think that's what they are talking about. I think this is supposed to be the masonry/stone bolts that use a percussive charge. We may be talking the same thing. But I'm to stubborn to admit it.

Re: AMERICANS! Please help...

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 2:28 am
by dafu
pigfender wrote:Okay. Thanks all!

Okay, for the purposes of this draft at least, I'll make a virtue of the obscurity.

‘I’m serious, gents,’ says Easton. ‘There’s not going to be any kind of plea bargain on this one. Try and back out and I will absolutely screw you to the wall and use him as a rawlplug.’
‘What does that even mean?’
‘Yeah!’ says Roy. ‘What’s a rawlplug?’
‘It means that if you back out I’ll...


Um, um, as you have it here the exchange just sounds pokey. I think this is one of those times when one is so besotted with a word that the action in the scene is obscured. Just give it up. . . . :D :D :D

Dave

Re: AMERICANS! Please help...

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:58 am
by Bybie
I do recall the rawlplug.

In my memory (60+ years of it) is a hollow lead cylinder perhaps a inch and a half long, wrapped in (as I recall it) some sort of brown fibrous paper resembling thinly shaved tree bark. The rawlplug would be inserted into a hole drilled in a concrete or masonry wall, and one would drive a screw into the rawlplug, expanding it and thereby compressing it against the wall of the drilled hole, thereby securing the rawlpug by (rather immense) friction so that the screw could support the weight of some object hung from it.

There were several sizes -- diameters and lengths -- of rawlplugs, and one would select based on the weight of the object-to-be-hung, and drill an appropriately (diameter and depth) sized hole to accommodate the rawlplug and screw. Driving the screw (by hand) could be quite difficult, especially if a too-narrow rawlplug was selected or a too-thick screw was used. Selecting the correct size rawlplug was somewhat a dark art.

The purpose of the wrapping escapes me.

I believe that I may have installed several or many.

Having said all this, I expect that rawlplug is an archaic term, as I cannot recall its use past, say, the '60s.

HTH

Re: AMERICANS! Please help...

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:40 am
by Briar Kit
Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Rawlpugs* (*But Were Afraid to Ask)

http://www.rawlplug.co.uk/en/

rawlplug.png

Re: AMERICANS! Please help...

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:36 pm
by vic-k
Image
………. Pre Moonwalk Space craft :roll: ?
http://www.otrfan.com/play/journey_into ... una_11.m3u

Re: AMERICANS! Please help...

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:04 pm
by Ahab
How primitive. Americans use Tapcon screws.


http://www.concretefasteners.com/anchor ... index.aspx

As in, I'll Tapcon yer ass to the wall.

Re: AMERICANS! Please help...

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:25 pm
by vic-k
When I built the present kitchen, we have now, seventeen years ago, these are what I used to hang the wall cabinets onto the walls: Image
For some reason it has never occurred to me to used them elsewhere, since.
Y' wouldn't think a primitive backwoodsman would know about such things … would ya!? :?

Re: AMERICANS! Please help...

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:49 pm
by Ahab
Well, I did build this house, all by myself with no adult supervision. And I used a s*tload of Tapcons to fasten cabinets and such to the concrete walls.

If I could figure out how to post a picture without overly wrinkling my brow, I'd show yez.

Re: AMERICANS! Please help...

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 8:55 pm
by vic-k
HEYYAHAB! D'y' know how to use theseImage or
one of theseImageAs a sailer of sea going boats and a builder of houses, with an artistic bent, or literary bent, I bet you'd be great at welded sculptures! :D Like Arthur Dooly!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf3SxOzuc8U

Re: AMERICANS! Please help...

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:22 pm
by pigfender
Wow, them bluescrews are about 10 times the price of a regular screw plus rawlplug combo (which doesn't need a special drill bit). Youse Americans is fancy, like.

Thanks all for the input (except the New Zealanders and Canadians who contributed NOTHING).

Re: AMERICANS! Please help...

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 4:41 am
by dafu
Ahab wrote:Well, I did build this house, all by myself with no adult supervision. And I used a s*tload of Tapcons to fasten cabinets and such to the concrete walls.

If I could figure out how to post a picture without overly wrinkling my brow, I'd show yez.


Ha! Wrinkle your brow and show us! Sounds neat. That said, I'm concerned by "a s*tload of Tapcons". That's a lot. Just how large is your kitchen? This does bring to mind working on job sites, wrecking out old for new, and finding walls barely held together with enough drywall screws to handle a five-story lobby. Given your parsimonious expression I find it difficult to imagine you living in Tapcon-infested digs—you don't have a grand kitchen do you?

Dave