The status of the next update and 2.0

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Lord Lightning
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Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:52 am Post

Keith, you great, lovable, socialist twit, genius and all round rock of good sense.

What I am about to say is deadly serious. To avoid the awful monetary grubbing cost to the user (he laughs out loud!) have you thought of charging the price that you suggest - it is very fair, and also putting a small Paypal donation button for those of us who would be happy to sling a fiver or a tenner in the Keith Blount support fund now and then - especially when we have sold something that was done because of the brilliance of Scrivener when we would like to shout you an amber libation?

So there!

Happy and preposterous New Year.
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Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:55 am Post

Hi Keith.

$20 for the upgrade? Where's the problem? Even if vs2.0 offered only half the features you revealed, that would be a big bargain.

So: Go ahead, finalize vs1.2 and start/continue with vs2.0. And be sure you have our support.


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Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:58 am Post

I too would have no problem in paying $20 for the upgrade - in fact I agree with others, the price is too modest for what you get.

A happy New Year to all.

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Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:06 pm Post

I figure Scrivener earns me about $20 in increased productivity every working hour or so. A paid 2.0 upgrade, with a freebie 1.12 bugswat, makes sense for you--if only for the refreshed review cycle--and for all of us whose workday Scrivener has smoothed, it feels pretty much like a duty.

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Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:23 pm Post

No flak from the Rhineland either. Your decision sounds plausible and your software is great. Hope you appreciate the feedback from the folks here – and hear the general concern that what you do for Scriv and its community may not stop you from being healthy and sane! Count me in for the payable 2.0 upgrade. Sustainable coding in 2009 and onward, a happy new user.

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Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:52 pm Post

Now you told me about this update, I'm very interested to see it! Keith, do you have a release date?


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Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:35 pm Post

The development from 1.0 to 1.12 beta would have been worth 20 bucks already. Looking forward to a proper 2.0!

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Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:37 pm Post

So many people are charging lots of money for rather nothing and get away with it (the ring tones business comes to mind), so why on earth should someone who produces something really great should not be properly paid for?

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Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:56 pm Post

I bought a MacBook to be able to use Scrivener and no matter what you do, I'm not going back to Windows. Go ahead, raise the price, make me install some sort of bio-sensor and be forced to prick my finger and place a drop of my blood on the pad in order to use Scrivener. I’ll do that. You’ve got a great product and I've got no problem paying for what sounds like a very impressive upgrade.
The 2 People 1 MacBook situation I find myself in isn’t working out too well. I discovered my wife training the dog to growl at me when I reach for the MacBook and while I'm not very intimidated by 15 pounds of Powder Puff Chinese Crested, I'm taking the hint (she’s now reading Guns & Ammo Magazine) and buying another computer. If a new Mac Mini is introduced at Macworld next week, I'm probably going to get one (after a short wait to see if they are afflicted with Rev. A Mac-disease). The cost of Scrivener will scarcely be noticed.
Scrivener is Best of Breed and you deserve to make plenty of money selling it in order to motivate you to keep improving it.
Best of luck in the new year, Keith.

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Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:00 pm Post

Your announcement prompted me to (at last) install the beta version. It is BRILLIANT!

As a screenwriter, I have been using Scrivener for a while now to write treatments and outlines. It has made my life a hell of a lot easier and, based on the number of Scrivener-originated storylines that have been commissioned, I'd say it has paid for itself several hundred times over!

Please don't worry about charging for a product this good. Glad to hear you are doing this full-time now.

I recently posted a recommendation for Scrivener on my blog: ... izmos.html

I hope 2009 is a great year for you and Scrivener.

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Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:01 pm Post

Where do you live? I want to move there. I can't get the pizza let alone the beer for $20 here!

J, upstate New York must be at the far end of the food chain. I know you have outrageous taxes, plus lake-effect snow. I travel widely, and nearly everywhere it's easy to get a small pie and pitcher of draft (draught) for 20 bills. I imagine that's also true in Wock's part of the South. (If they allow pizza.)

But let's not highjack this thread with our usual drivel. Vic is out in the cold, in his welding boots. Let's bring him in and raise a foaming glass to Keith, wishing him and all Happy New Year and praise for his advances toward 2.0. --D

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Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:01 pm Post

I am looking forward to paying for an upgrade. And yes, I'm an artist and "financially differently abled" but I love paying for good tools and supporting those, like Keith, who make great products.

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Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:19 pm Post

Another vote for the paid upgrade

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Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:06 pm Post

I joined this forum specifically because of this post.

I have been using Scrivener since I bought my first Mac (MacBook) back in March of '08. I am a big proponent of free software and free upgrades. As an example of such Scrivener is the only piece of software I have purchased for my Mac since I bought it. It is quite simply the best story-centric word processor I have ever used.

With all that said, I will gladly pay for a full version upgrade due to the usefulness of the features, ease of entering story components and rearranging sections, and the plethora of other features that make this story editor so much more powerful and a better word processor for writers than any other software. I've paid for it once, and if the next version improves the functionality on a product I already love, I will pay for it again. And that's a first for me. I want to continue using this software and continue to see it developed and improved upon as much as the development team can.

You've got my vote for a 2.0 paid version.

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Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:12 pm Post


How can we possibly thank you enough for taking valuable time away from your own writing to make better writers of all us? Surely that's worth something (in the range of, say, $20)

Cheers and all the best of the New Year,