ios 11 support of "files app"

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Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:50 pm Post

kewms wrote:Your posts so far compare SQLite to a ZIP file, but Scrivener does not currently use a ZIP format and has no plans to do so.

Katherine


I was under the impression a ZIP file or similar method of bundling multiple files into one actual file was being considered, as part of allowing Scrivener to work with iOS's Files support.

I guess I was wrong.

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Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:48 am Post

RDavidson wrote:
kewms wrote:Your posts so far compare SQLite to a ZIP file, but Scrivener does not currently use a ZIP format and has no plans to do so.

Katherine


I was under the impression a ZIP file or similar method of bundling multiple files into one actual file was being considered, as part of allowing Scrivener to work with iOS's Files support.

I guess I was wrong.


Such a thing has been suggested by some users. It is not under serious consideration by the development team.

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Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:21 am Post

KB wrote:However, there *is* a way to tell Files to download files - it is just really, really well hidden. To do so:

1. Long-press on the file in Files app.

2. Tap "Info" in the black menu that appears.

3. Tap the little blue cloud icon in the info window appears. This actually works and downloads the file, unlike the identical button that appears in the row in Files app.


This works for me, thanks.

For everybody else interested in this, keep in mind that this is a one-way-import, not a sync. The Scrivener project will be copied into Scriveners container on iOS and the project in iCloud Drive will not see the changes made on iOS. It is possible to manually export the project from iOS, though and save it back into iCloud Drive (as a ZIP file).

KB wrote:Although this isn't the worse iOS 11 bug - that would be the completely broken rich text system. :)


This sound bad :(

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Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:45 pm Post

Sorry to resurrect an older post, but are there still plans to fully support the Files app, including opening and saving files in place (in locations other than Dropbox or local storage)?

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Sun May 13, 2018 7:56 pm Post

Keith and the team,

Greetings. It's been a long while since my original posting about melding scrivener with the Files.app -- how is the "open in place (without copying)" implemention coming along? Is it still on you radar screen?

Thank you!

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Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:47 pm Post

I, too, would be interested in hearing about where this might be up to. I've taken the step of purchasing Scrivener iOS, but it's difficult for me to use it as I would like until there is full Files in-place editing (basically iCloud Drive). If the feature is a long way off that's cool, just curious to know

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Sat Jul 28, 2018 2:45 am Post

I'm curious about this myself. I mean, given how iCloud works with iOS devices now, wouldn't it be better than Dropbox? Would't it have better sync if the os is doing the syncing insted of having to call the Dropbox api every time you want a file sync?
I haven't coded anything like that, so I'm just guessing, but I've been using RichTexture for iOS to manage cloud rtfs, and it seems iCloud Drive syncing is the best option for iOS when you want to keep your files up to date on all devices all the time.

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Sat Jul 28, 2018 4:16 am Post

perezbalen wrote:I'm curious about this myself. I mean, given how iCloud works with iOS devices now, wouldn't it be better than Dropbox? Would't it have better sync if the os is doing the syncing insted of having to call the Dropbox api every time you want a file sync?
I haven't coded anything like that, so I'm just guessing, but I've been using RichTexture for iOS to manage cloud rtfs, and it seems iCloud Drive syncing is the best option for iOS when you want to keep your files up to date on all devices all the time.


Limitations of iCloud and the reasons why Scrivener uses Dropbox instead are discussed here:
viewtopic.php?p=244405#p244405

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Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:22 am Post

sero wrote:
KB wrote:However, there *is* a way to tell Files to download files - it is just really, really well hidden. To do so:

1. Long-press on the file in Files app.

2. Tap "Info" in the black menu that appears.

3. Tap the little blue cloud icon in the info window appears. This actually works and downloads the file, unlike the identical button that appears in the row in Files app.


This works for me, thanks.

For everybody else interested in this, keep in mind that this is a one-way-import, not a sync. The Scrivener project will be copied into Scriveners container on iOS and the project in iCloud Drive will not see the changes made on iOS. It is possible to manually export the project from iOS, though and save it back into iCloud Drive (as a ZIP file).


Thanks. I tried this for the first time yesterday—it works really well and adds workflow possibilities/flexibility.

(As always, have a solid backup strategy and follow other best use practices.)
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Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:57 am Post

What I find anoying about dropbox is that it doesn’t sync in the backgroud.
Let’s say I want to quickly type something in my phone... I have to wait for it to sync... and it syncs a lot of files.
Then I write something. And I have to actively tell it to sync... and wait...
I don’t know if it’s possible to sync in the background every time you close a document, but it would be great.

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Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:08 am Post

iOS does not support true multitasking, and therefore does not support background synchronization.

Note that you don't have to synchronize all of your projects to all of your devices. I keep a small notetaking project in the Dropbox/Apps/Scrivener/Notes folder, and synchronize *only* that folder to my phone. My larger projects, which I want on my iPad, are one level up, in Dropbox/Apps/Scrivener.

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