Simplenote Syncing Gone in Version 3.0?

Wr
WritingInPittsburgh
Posts: 1
Joined: Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:31 pm
Platform: Mac

Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:36 pm Post

I've been a Scrivener user for years and have come to rely on Simplenote syncing because it's such a great way to quickly capture notes related to my project. I've searched high and low and am I right that it's gone in the latest version? If so, are there any plans to bring it back? Please do. I'm surprised no one else has posted about this as far as I can tell.

If there are no plans to bring it back, do you have any ideas for quickly capturing notes without having to go into the app on my iPhone, creating a new document, etc.? Please help.

Thank you.

User avatar
kewms
Posts: 3251
Joined: Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:22 pm
Platform: Mac

Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:34 am Post

Unfortunately, the SimpleNote side of things has become increasingly unreliable over the past few years, to the point where we don't feel comfortable offering it as an alternative to our users.

Personally, I have an iOS Scrivener project on my phone set aside for "quick notes", Depending on the note, I can either create a new document or just add it to an existing "inbox" document and extract it to its final destination later,

Katherine
Scrivener Support Team

ma
marcoiac
Posts: 392
Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:12 am
Platform: Mac

Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:41 am Post

WritingInPittsburgh wrote: I'm surprised no one else has posted about this as far as I can tell.

.


I am actually not surprised you are the first one to notice because Simplenote has become quite unreliable over the years and I think its user base is now limited. I used to use it and stopped using it a long time ago. I am not sure what you mean with "do you have any ideas for quickly capturing notes without having to go into the app on my iPhone, creating a new document, etc.?", but if you mean capturing notes on your phone without using Scrivener there is plenty of options. I'd say the quickest one is Drafts. There are threads on this forum on how to use Drafts fairly efficiently with Scrivener. I haven't done it in a long time, but I think you can have your notes from Drafts straight into your Scrivener scratchpad. You need to set it up for text files though

User avatar
Silverdragon
Posts: 337
Joined: Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:52 pm
Platform: Mac + iOS
Contact:

Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:47 am Post

Index Card for iOS syncing is gone too--no big loss, haven't used it since iOS Scrivener came out.
So you know where I'm coming from:
• I'm a user, not an L&L employee.
• Mac Scrivener 2.9 & 3.0.0, MacBook Air 11, MacOS 10.12.6 (Sierra)
• iOS Scrivener 1.1.5, iPhone 6s, iPad Air 2, iOS 11.2

User avatar
AmberV
Posts: 20613
Joined: Sun Jun 18, 2006 4:30 am
Platform: Mac + Linux
Location: Santiago de Compostela, Galiza
Contact:

Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:29 am Post

There are two good ways to keep a synced scratch pad type workflow with Scrivener, that don’t involve any particular third-party software:

Scratchpad

Simple enough! Call it up with Window/Show Scratchpad whenever you need it on the Mac. To make this work on the go:
  1. In the General: Scratchpad preference pane (which is yes, going to get its typo fixed), set your Notes location to iCloud Drive, Dropbox, Google Drive, OneDrive, Box, SpiderOak, Resilio Sync folder, etc.
  2. On your mobile, use your favourite text editor to edit the contents of that folder or create new files within it.



You might prefer using a plain-text workflow in that preference pane for this, since most of the best editors out there for mobile are plain-text. For example, Plain Text with the .md extension makes Editorial work nice.

It also might work best to target some app’s dedicated sync folder, since not all can browse sync services freely.

Folder Sync

File/Sync/with External Folder. When the above is too basic, this might do the trick. It’s very flexible with a lot of options, automatic snapshots like Simplenote gave you, direct project integration, the ability to work on whole chunks (or surgical sections) of your manuscript, etc.

Same as above, once you have a folder of files like this you can edit them anywhere in conjunction with a little sync glue and some text editors.

Refer to §14.3, Synchronised Folders, pg. 347 in the user manual, for more information.
.:.
Ioa Petra'ka
“Whole sight, or all the rest is desolation.” —John Fowles

User avatar
KB
Site Admin
Posts: 19198
Joined: Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:23 pm
Platform: Mac
Location: Truro, Cornwall
Contact:

Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:41 pm Post

Indeed, this has gone, along with Index Card sync. I would stress that we really like Simplenote and Index Card and their developers, so this is not meant t be a negative reflection on them in any way. However, as noted, Simplenote has caused us quite a few support issues over the past couple of years. Mainly it was a matter of resources, though. As there's only me working on the macOS version, I have to be careful that I can continue to maintain support for various features. If Simplenote changes its API or Index Card changes its file format (as both have done at various points), I have to write new code. With Scrivener for iOS sync along with folder sync to maintain now, it was becoming a little impractical to support Simplenote and Index Card too. Apologies for the inconvenience.

All the best,
Keith
"You can't waltz in here, use my toaster, and start spouting universal truths without qualification."

Am
AmsterdamAssassin
Posts: 20
Joined: Thu May 03, 2012 6:24 pm
Platform: Mac

Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:59 pm Post

I used SimpleNote all the time, which is why I'm not hesitant to 'upgrade' to Scrivener 3. Sure, I get a discount to get Scrivener 3 at 25$, but I also have to change from using SimpleNote to buying IOS Scrivener for 20$. Why is there a bundle for buying Scrivener for Windows and Mac, but not for Scrivener for Mac & iOS, since I'm probably not the only one to write on my iPad and import the chapters to my Macbook.
I write the Amsterdam Assassin Series (suspense fiction), if you want to know more or support me by buying my work, please check out my website http://tao-of-violence.weebly.com/ and blog http://amsterdamassassin.wordpress.com/.

User avatar
kewms
Posts: 3251
Joined: Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:22 pm
Platform: Mac

Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:05 pm Post

It's not possible to offer bundle pricing for iOS Scrivener, as it is available only through the Apple Store, and the Apple Store does not allow coupons of any kind.

If you prefer, you can use the Sync with External Folder feature to share files with any iOS application you like. (EXCEPT iOS Scrivener, which opens Scrivener projects directly.)

Katherine
Scrivener Support Team

Am
AmsterdamAssassin
Posts: 20
Joined: Thu May 03, 2012 6:24 pm
Platform: Mac

Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:08 pm Post

kewms wrote:.If you prefer, you can use the Sync with External Folder feature to share files with any iOS application you like.


For me the wonderful thing about Simplenote was a distraction free writing app and syncing would automatically overwrite the scenes on my macbook. I don't know any other iOS apllication that would work as simple as Simplenote. Can you give me examples of alternatives for Simplenote?
I write the Amsterdam Assassin Series (suspense fiction), if you want to know more or support me by buying my work, please check out my website http://tao-of-violence.weebly.com/ and blog http://amsterdamassassin.wordpress.com/.

User avatar
Silverdragon
Posts: 337
Joined: Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:52 pm
Platform: Mac + iOS
Contact:

Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:26 pm Post

My personal favourite, which I used before iOS Scrivener, is Editorial. I prefer it because its integration with Dropbox is tighter that that of any other iOS editor I've ever tried. I achieved the same sort of simplicity of editing on the iOS side as you describe, after initial setup of the folder sync. It's a markdown editor, but of course you can use it as straight text if you wish.

Its downside is that it's a programmer's editor, so its documentation is not always writer-friendly. :) It's also Dropbox-only, so if you want some other cloud solution you'll need to look elsewhere. If you're interested in how to set it up let me know.
So you know where I'm coming from:
• I'm a user, not an L&L employee.
• Mac Scrivener 2.9 & 3.0.0, MacBook Air 11, MacOS 10.12.6 (Sierra)
• iOS Scrivener 1.1.5, iPhone 6s, iPad Air 2, iOS 11.2