Scapple Beta - New Users Please Read

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Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:08 pm Post

Hi Keith,

Surely I am new to Scapple but none of its realignment capabilities came out with anything I could use without further manual correction. I wouldn't expect as many sophisticated outcome options as yEd (here is just one of them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTasbZ1QRK4) but I will expect at least an automatic one. As I said, I like Scapple's simplicity but the final appearance of my work is certainly a deal breaker for me.

I love Scrivener by the way.

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Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:39 pm Post

I don't understand - the Align commands do exactly what anyone would expect, so how exactly aren't they workable for you? Of course Scapple isn't intended as a presentation tool and won't be for everyone, so it's fair enough if it doesn't suit your needs, but you haven't really provided me with enough information to understand where you are having problems.
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Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:56 am Post

I attach captures of the outcomes of the distribute/auto-fit functions in Scapple and of one of the many automatic layouts of yEd -since this is the app I am using now. I do prefer the simplicity of Scapple if it provided one automatic outcome not as sophisticated as yEd's yet unmuddled.

As for the importing of OPML, other simple apps do it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pExuqdABMjc

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Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:33 am Post

jmm wrote:I attach captures of the outcomes of the distribute/auto-fit functions in Scapple

It looks like what you want is to select the notes and choose Align > Left Edges, then Distribute > Vertically.
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Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:05 pm Post

AM LOVING IT!!!!!
Thanks so much for the borders!!
Please add triangle, circle and oval to the borders choices.

Love how easy it is to connect and disconnect line linkages -- and with only a simple dotted line (no directionality)!
Could you add solid and bold line linkages in addition to the dotted lines? That would allow dottedness to represent tentativeness in the scheme of some things.

Love the stacking!

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Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:40 pm Post

Please dear sir,
Is it possible to provide a search function......? My mind so needs it. Thank you for your attention and your ever-nourishing bread of work.

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Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:09 pm Post

Search should be working fine, I'm having no problems with it anyway. It's just the basic Cmd-F find tool that most Mac programs use, tweaked to jump you around on the canvas to locate matches.
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Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:58 pm Post

I've also found search unreliable (sometimes Cmd-F just does not work). Also I noticed that pasting in a "clickable" URL (copied from a web page, for instance) break the XML, preventing Scapple from saving the current map. Has anybody reported this?

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Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:50 pm Post

There were some problems with URLs that have been fixed for the next update. Stay tuned for that and see if you have more success with them once you have it installed.

I'll need more information to help with the find problem you are experiencing, however. What steps are you taking, from a new blank document up to the point where Find breaks, and in as much detail as possible?
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Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:55 pm Post

Scapple has been telling me this version will expire soon. Can I assume a new version will be out soon? I have a lot of data that I would lose if this app stops working. Thanks!

BTW, I find the alignment tools fine (one was added at my suggestion).

The thing I would really like is multiple pages in a list that I can make hierarchical.

Next on my list would be to move the selected elements when I hit the arrow keys.

-Bob

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Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:58 am Post

LostInTheTrees wrote:The thing I would really like is multiple pages in a list that I can make hierarchical.

Next on my list would be to move the selected elements when I hit the arrow keys.


I'm not sure I know what you're describing for the first one, but based on the word "hierarchical" I'm going to guess that it's probably not something in the cards for Scapple, which is intentionally freeform and has no notion of ordering. There also isn't any plan for nested notes-within-notes via popovers or that sort of thing, though I'm not sure that's what you mean with "multiple pages". The second wish however is already granted: you can type `M` to toggle the Movement mode (or select it from the Edit menu), and the arrow keys will then work to move the selected notes. Hold the Shift key while pressing the arrow keys to move in larger increments.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:41 pm Post

Just wondering, when the current beta expires next week, will we see a beta extension, a new beta, or the ability to buy?

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Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:49 pm Post

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I am really enjoying using Scapple every day now and look forward to buying a copy when it comes out of beta.

Best regards,
Best regards,

Alan

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Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:51 am Post

KB wrote:When it's ready. :) hopefully February or March, though.


Another vote for extending the beta if needed. This is an excellent app so of course I've already started using it for a serious ongoing project where no other tool was giving me what I needed. That's a compliment, obviously, but yes: If we can't pay you now, please let us keep going until we can. :D

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Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:41 pm Post

Don't worry, I won't leave you without a working beta. There is another beta to come out before release, this one introducing "background shapes".

All the best,
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