Scrivener + Scapple ... writing and mapping on the same application

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Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:36 am Post

AmberV wrote:
I think the best answer is still to use Bookmarks—which does just about everything you could want from this kind of integration, that is feasible. You get a preview in the sidebar if that is what you really want, but if you want to modify or edit this thing (which evidently has no connection to any data in Scrivener and is a complete disconnected data model that has no inherent benefit in being in Scrivener) then you double-click the bookmark instead of single clicking it. :) Easy---and it works just as well for Excel spreadsheets too, or whatever else you need.


This is brilliant! I did not know really what Bookmarks were for until you mentioned them - Just tried it with a Scapple file and presto - what a great way to access mind maps! Thanks. :D

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Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:59 pm Post

AmberV wrote:You get a preview in the sidebar if that is what you really want, but if you want to modify or edit this thing (which evidently has no connection to any data in Scrivener and is a complete disconnected data model that has no inherent benefit in being in Scrivener) then you double-click the bookmark instead of single clicking it. :) Easy---and it works just as well for Excel spreadsheets too, or whatever else you need.


Thanks. I didn't realized it was possible to preview the file as is. Was I distracted or Scrivener 2 didn't have this? Anyway, thanks, I don't mind double clicking to edit the map – I was more worried by having to open it in an external program just to see its contents.

Thanks everyone!

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Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:27 pm Post

It’s a new feature in Scrivener 3. In the previous version there was something functionally similar to the top half of this pane, called “References”, but it was just a simple list at the bottom of the inspector. In this version there is now a whole pane for them, which provides enough space to show a preview of files—or if the Bookmark points to another text item inside the project, a fully-featured editor.
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Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:30 pm Post

Still haven’t got the time to check Scrivener 3 as it deserves :)

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Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:49 am Post

AmberV wrote:I think the best answer is still to use Bookmarks—which does just about everything you could want from this kind of integration, that is feasible ... then you double-click the bookmark instead of single clicking it. :) Easy---and it works just as well for Excel spreadsheets too, or whatever else you need.


This work fantastic! Combining Bookmarked Scapple maps with the Drag-n-Drop from Scapple-to-Scrivener Binder is all I needed. Thanks ! :D

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Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:51 pm Post

Hi

I'd love to be a proper writer but I'm just starting out. After a year or so creating fanfic for fan generated quests in a sandboxy space sim, I'm looking towards creating 'proper' stories. I've looked at what writing software is available and finally settled on and bought Scrivener (to replace yWriter) and am looking at Scapple (to replace Freemind).

I've enjoyed this thread, It has reminded me of the developing dialogue in many other threads covering a lot of different types of software.

These are just my thoughts ... The developers have created particular pieces of software that behaves in unique ways. It doesn't do everything some users want so they suggest changing it so that it becomes more like other existing software, even though that would require lots of effort on behalf of the developer.

Just because one developer produces two programmes I don't intuitively understand why that means they have to be completely integrated or even integrable (is that a word?). Scapple is what Scapple is, which is why I'm looking at trying it. If the suggested changes are made, then Scapple would no longer be Scapple.

Given that I would be able to drag and drop bits of info that I need at any given time between the programs I've got a work around for the problem of using both programmes together easily - I've got two monitors (monitors are cheap!) so can have four programmes open side by side.

So my request is that the developers put their efforts into completing Scrivener V3 for Windows first, given that Scapple's role is to support Scrivener rather than vice versa

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Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:21 pm Post

Thanks for the supportive comments, DaveK, and best wishes for your aspirations in branching out to other forms of writing.

P.S. I love space sims, especially those that allow for emergent narratives from the players. :)
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Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:08 am Post

I just love this thread, but PLEASE don't touch Scapple!

It's perfect the way it's working!
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