Any hints on coming 3.0 features...

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Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:54 pm Post

Putting the drama of the latest update aside, I was wondering if there will be any updates to the Windows Scrivener GUI in version 3.

I like Scrivener, and have used it for two novels, but I really wish it had tabbed windows, darker themes, even more modern dialogue boxes.

Yes, I know how much of it is customizable, but is something more contemporary coming? Something easier on the eyes? I always feel like I'm using a program from Windows 98 when I use it.

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Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:28 pm Post

Personally, I liked the look of ipad version. It's light, clean and minimalistic, nothing to distract from the task at hand. If a hypothetic new interface looked something like Scrivener for ipad or, say, Ulysses, it would've been more than fine with me. :) However, if designing a new GUI would detract the developers from working on the features, I'd say leave it as it is now. It's not all that important, come to think of it.

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Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:40 pm Post

Well, if you trawl through the forums, you'll find that KB has dropped a number of snippets of information, including:

- styles as opposed to presets (though not fully cascading styles)
- the UI redesigned and simplified in some places as a result of having to think through the UI for the iOS version
- a redesigned and simplified UI for Compile

I think he posted a couple of screen shots a few weeks ago, but I couldn't tell you where. But that's about it.

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Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:53 pm Post

Thanks. Guess I'll just have to wait and see.

As far as IOS, and Ipads, I spent years on Macs with FCP and Nuendo and also had an iPhone, but happily left it all behind. Personal preference, that's all.

I have a feeling Scrivener's still going to look like a Mac program ported to PC. But it gets the job done.

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Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:39 pm Post

I know this is not a favorite topic but as we are approaching the one-year-since-update for Windows I would love to be at least teased...
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Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:02 am Post

Part of the look and feel for a UI comes from the framework being used -- which is partly why Scrivener 1.x for Windows feels like a legacy Win32 app, as it is based on Qt4. We can hope the UI elements provided in Qt5 are a bit more modern.
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Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:01 pm Post

Modernising the interface with the Windows 10 look in mind is what we're doing for the upgrade. We are at times constrained by the toolkit and its internal "theme", but we hope that the overall result will be fresh and appealing nonetheless.
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Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:01 pm Post

AmberV wrote:Modernising the interface with the Windows 10 look in mind is what we're doing for the upgarde. We are at times constrained by the toolkit and its internal "theme", but we hope that the overall result will be fresh and appealing nonetheless.


For another viewpoint... *all* I want in Windows Scrivener (that I don't already have) is the ability to track changes. That's it. I really hope the upgrade to getting what Mac users already have isn't being delayed by an emphasis on eye candy.

That said, I loooooove Scrivener and appreciate all that you programmers have already done.

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Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:26 am Post

Mac users don't have track changes ... they have "Revision Mode", which is not the same.

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Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:25 pm Post

Well, so long as you are not referring to Microsoft’s proprietary feature which we have no plans to support—yeah, there are two tools in fact that Scrivener for macOS uses to show you where you’ve been and where you are: revision mode is one, as mentioned, where your additions are marked in a defined colour; the second is the ability to retroactively compare, with visual markings, any snapshot with the current text or another snapshot. I use a mixture of the two methods, depending on the phase of the project.
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Thu Jul 20, 2017 12:26 am Post

AmberV wrote:Well, so long as you are not referring to Microsoft’s proprietary feature which we have no plans to support—yeah, there are two tools in fact that Scrivener for macOS uses to show you where you’ve been and where you are: revision mode is one, as mentioned, where your additions are marked in a defined colour; the second is the ability to retroactively compare, with visual markings, any snapshot with the current text or another snapshot. I use a mixture of the two methods, depending on the phase of the project.


Any possibly of either one of those features in the upcoming release? I've thought about turning my PC into the Hackintosh to get them...
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Thu Jul 20, 2017 12:39 am Post

Yes indeed, as noted elsewhere perhaps, one of the big goals of Windows 3.0 is for there to no longer be any substantial feature difference between Mac and Windows. That’s part of why it has taken a while—it’s not only catching up to what the Mac version was, but what it will be, which is itself a product of years of design and coding that even Mac users haven't even seen yet. :)
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Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:44 pm Post

AmberV wrote:Yes indeed, as noted elsewhere perhaps, one of the big goals of Windows 3.0 is for there to no longer be any substantial feature difference between Mac and Windows. That’s part of why it has taken a while—it’s not only catching up to what the Mac version was, but what it will be, which is itself a product of years of design and coding that even Mac users haven't even seen yet. :)


That's awesome to hear. Looking forward to the update!

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Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:49 am Post

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Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:25 pm Post

As usual Windows users come last ... never lose some money for the new MacOS release. Say Scrivener 3 is the first paid upgrade in 6 years ... To Windows users you should give it as you've treated them all this time. I was looking for Scrivener for Windows update mail to fix at least the problem with high resolution screens. You answered me to wait until March 2017. Now let's wait for the 2018 unlimited and pay as well. Too bad that there is no other software to replace, at least not now, but I'm sure I will not be a beta tester free of charge for those who want a pay-per-upgrade. Do not deserve it