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Thu Apr 28, 2016 2:40 am Post
LinnyP wrote:I find it disappointing in the 5 years since I've actively used it, that something as simple as a decent spell checker and some sort of grammar checking would still be absent for the Windows version.
Thanks for the feedback! Currently Scrivener uses the Windows port of the Aspell dictionaries, but we're aware they're rather out of date and lacking for a lot of languages. We're looking at other options for the next major version of Scrivener.
Thu Apr 28, 2016 3:36 pm Post
SarsenLintel wrote:Just for the record - the only reason that macScriv has a grammar checker is because it's part of the OS.
IIRC since windows doesn't have a built in spellchecker, winScriv uses Aspell. L&L are looking into other options for the next version.
Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:08 pm Post
LinnyP wrote:Thanks for the info. It's nice to know there is something coming up. I was just rather unimpressed that it's been 5 years since I used this software and it seemed a little ridiculous to me it appeared to have basic problems with spelling. *shrug*
I was also in the mood to rant because Scrivener was pissing me off at the time with the number of false spelling errors.
Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:36 pm Post
Briar Kit wrote:What looks like an attempt to besmirch L&L/Scrivener, reads as a mea culpa. “I’m shouting at you to deflect attention from me” — not realising that the shouting is only drawing attention to your own shortcomings.
Briar Kit wrote:On a Mac, Scrivener accesses the spellchecking and grammar-checking tools provided by Apple in the operating system. I understand Scrivener for Windows provides some proofing capabilities, but that they are not as comprehensive as the ones provided by Apple. As such, your complaint is misdirected: you should be calling out Microsoft, not L&L. If you’ve been using Scrivener for Windows for five years, you must have owned a Windows computer for at least five years, but only now are you wising up to the limitations of Windows PCs?
Briar Kit wrote:Saying that you can’t recommend Scrivener is nonsensical: (1) because the limited capabilities (when compared against Scrivener for Mac) rest with Windows, not Scrivener; and (2) you’re allowing your ignorance and narrowly focused needs to muddy your judgement—“Scrivener doesn’t do what I want it to do, ergo it won’t be suitable for anyone else.” Such an ill-thought-out idea is fallacious. “Because I don’t know how to drive a car, no one should ever drive a car.” Sheesh!
Briar Kit wrote:While spellchecking and grammar-checking tools are useful to have, I don’t see why a writing studio should be expected to include such tools (spelling and grammar should be down to the writer — just as cooking should be down to the cook, not the cooker, etc), especially when its raison d’être is to allow users “to concentrate on composing and structuring long and difficult documents”, and let alone when it only costs £34 — building spellchecking and grammar-checking tools would necessitate huge development fees, driving up the price charged to users considerably.
Briar Kit wrote:Or perhaps we should all be writing to Microsoft and complaining that its writing software is missing countless features found in Scrivener?
Briar Kit wrote:With regard to Grammarly, I’d urge caution…
1. We all make mistakes/typos, but for a service purporting to offer “you the confidence of mistake-free writing every time you write” (the service/writers are clearly not checking for tautologies), it is disconcerting that the company’s home page has so many errors.
2. The terms of service state…By uploading or entering any User Content, you give Grammarly (and those it works with) a nonexclusive, worldwide, royalty-free and fully-paid, transferable and sublicensable, perpetual, and irrevocable license to copy, store and use your User Content in connection with the provision of the Software and the Services and to improve the algorithms underlying the Software and the Services.
Overlooking the errors (good grief!) in the quote above, I cannot understand why any writer would give Grammarly the right to copy, store, use, transfer, or sublicense their work. The “in connection with the provision of the Software and the Services” wording is so vague that it offers the user/writer no security whatsoever.
Come what may, a writer can choose to grant Grammarly rights to use, copy, store, etc their own work, but if a writer is working for agencies or end clients, they will certainly show a breach of trust if they upload their clients’ work to Grammarly, let alone be in breach of any formal SLA or NDA. This also goes for services such as Google Translate and Bing Translator.
Briar Kit wrote:Best
Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:53 pm Post
xiamenese wrote:That said, another way of viewing it is that perhaps you Windows users have an advantage over us Mac users ... you can change the dictionary that Scrivener accesses to one that suits you—there is a thread here that you should be able to find that tells you how to do so. We Mac users are stuck with what is available through Dictionary.app, unless we are willing to purchase a third-party, standalone dictionary app and have that running in a separate window.
Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:03 pm Post
LongTermLurker101 wrote:joined to report your reply to brian but someone pulled the trigger faster than me
you publicly criticize l&l on its own forum
you bitchslap the program by mouthing off about how you cannot recommend it because you finally understood a day one fundamental after 5 yrs
are you even serious
brian explains the problem & how your post screams out your misunderstanding for the whole planet to read
& you then have another bitchslappingly unintelligent & downright loonytune rant
you're shouting your mouth off & bitching about the company & the software & the developers & the users & yet you fail to realise how your inane ranting shines a spotlight on everything you don't understand
or take 5 unbelievable yrs to understand
you are the problem
not the software
they should ban you & revoke your user license
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