New writing font for monospace lovers...

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Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:13 pm Post

I downloaded Duospace from GitHub but after I installed it my Scrivener wouldn't load at all.

I get the following error in the log:
Debug: Loading Font: "C:\WINDOWS\Fonts\iAWriterDuospace_Bold.otf"
Debug: FAILED Parsing Extra Font: "C:\WINDOWS\Fonts\iAWriterDuospace_Bold.otf"


Since then I removed the font and have no problems opening Scrivener.

I wonder if someone else encountered the same problem.
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Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:47 pm Post

krastev wrote:I downloaded Duospace from GitHub but after I installed it my Scrivener wouldn't load at all.

I get the following error in the log:
Debug: Loading Font: "C:\WINDOWS\Fonts\iAWriterDuospace_Bold.otf"
Debug: FAILED Parsing Extra Font: "C:\WINDOWS\Fonts\iAWriterDuospace_Bold.otf"


Since then I removed the font and have no problems opening Scrivener.

I wonder if someone else encountered the same problem.

I didn't import Duospace into Windows (I'm on Mac). There are a couple of reported issues doing so:

https://github.com/iaolo/iA-Fonts/issues/6

If you haven't, definitely try Cousine. Silverdragon linked to it in an earlier post. Love it.

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Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:08 pm Post

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Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:20 pm Post

brookter wrote:Ah, sorry. I didn't realise moggie was purely BrEng -- or hoovering for that matter.

It's just my take on the 'real' term -- cat vacuuming: something unnecessary you do when you really ought to be writing.

:lol: ROFL!!!!!

A well-placed kick in the knickers for me! As you may have guessed, I'm mildly OCD exacerbated by decades of software development where the difference between an el and a capital eye, or a capital oh and a zero could be critical—and before the days when syntax highlighting or spell checking were available, either one. Though even before that, I insisted my parents buy me a typewriter for college that had a Real Numeral One key, because using lowercase el instead bothered me for no logical reason... obviously I was destined to be a programmer even then. :D

brookter wrote:Indeed. I downloaded both the fonts suggested. Duowhatsit is nice, but that 'r' seems completely out of place, and once I'd noticed that I can't unnotice it. Cousine doesn't jar in the same way. Not sure either of them are much better than Courier Prime; in any way that I can see.


My major disappointments in Courier Prime are that I can't glance at a large oval glyph and tell if it's a capital oh or a zero, or look at a dash glyph and see whether it's a hyphen or an en-dash. If not for that, Courier Prime would be my writing font, and it's definitely my send-out-for-review font unless otherwise requested. And yeah, that Duospace lowercase r is hosed.

That said, I need to stop moggie-hoovering and get some writing done. :D
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Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:25 pm Post

It wasn't aimed at you — it was aimed at me!

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Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:49 pm Post

brookter wrote:Hah!

Cat-vacuuming is quite an old term now -- I think I first came across on the old Usenet group misc.writing in the 90s but it's probably a lot older than that.


I believe the modern vernacular is now "cat-waxing" -- at least, that's what I see being used today.
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Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:28 am Post

I learned about the new typeface via the Macstories website. Duospace doesn't do much for me, but I like the font it was derived from, IBM's new freeware corporate typeface, IBM Plex. It's intended to be a Helvetica replacement and includes monospace and proportional serif and sans serif fonts.

As nice as Plex is, I'm sticking with my Courier Prime. It makes me feel at home.

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Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:36 pm Post

Just in case any screenwriters are reading this, you need to use a 12-point, 10-pitch mono font for screenplays. Otherwise, your page count will be off.
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Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:06 am Post

Another to check out is the Mac system font SF Mono located at: Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app/Show Package Contents/Resources/Fonts/
Drag out a copy or use copy and paste, then import into Font Book.
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Italic also available in the three bold font-weights.
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Wed May 02, 2018 4:19 am Post

scshrugged wrote:Another to check out is the Mac system font SF Mono located at: Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app/Show Package Contents/Resources/Fonts/
Drag out a copy or use copy and paste, then import into Font Book.
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Italic also available in the three bold font-weights.


Thank you! BTW for those not used to mucking around in hidden folders, you get to the 'Show Package Contents' command via the little gear symbol at the top of the Finder window when selecting Terminal.app, or by right-clicking on Terminal.app.
I do love Courier Prime, which I discovered via this forum, but I'll give SF a try. Makes a sweet system font already. Thanks again!

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Thu May 03, 2018 2:39 am Post

After using Cousine for a while, I came to the conclusion that I could live with hyphens/dashes not being super-distinct—but I was spending far too much time squinting at the screen trying to tell which way English typographic quotes were pointing. Now I waver between Source Code Pro and Ubuntu Mono. Ubuntu Mono has everything I want in a writing font--except it's too narrow and therefore doesn't match the Courier size (old typewriter Pica.) Source Code Pro is the right size, but its hyphens/dashes are not as nicely distinct as Ubuntu Mono.

And the "r"s in IBM Plex Mono are just as crummy as the ones in iAWriter Duospaced.
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Thu May 03, 2018 10:24 pm Post

Just to add to your extensive comparison, I've fallen in love with this very quirky programming mono for use in my Terminal, not sure what you think of it as a writing font?

Test it here: https://fontlibrary.org/en/font/fantasque-sans-mono

Download: https://github.com/belluzj/fantasque-sans

Probably the hyphens will fail your requirements?

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Thu May 03, 2018 11:08 pm Post

Yes, the hyphens/dashes fail but otherwise it's spot on. Nice curly quotes. I'd looked at it back when hyphens/dashes were a higher priority for me than they are now. It is quirky--Source Code Pro is more a traditional programmers' font. I do like the Fantasque "k" though, and the curving ends of vertical strokes are pleasing. So yes, I'l consider it when I next get bored with my writing font. Thanks for reminding me of it!

Right now I have Ubuntu Mono back in as my default writing font. At 14.5 point size, it matches Courier Prime at 12 points precisely in width. No problem telling whether a given thingie is a hyphen, an en dash or an em dash; slashed zeros; easy to tell the difference among a capital eye, lowercase el, numeral one, and vertical bar; and English curly quotes that actually curl. OK, so I display it at 14.5 points instead of 12, and it's a little heavier than Source Code Pro. So few monospace font designers share my obsession with hyphens/dashes that I'll deal. :D
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Fri May 04, 2018 4:31 am Post

I submitted an issue about dashes to github for Fantasque: https://github.com/belluzj/fantasque-sans/issues/93 :D

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Fri May 04, 2018 5:02 am Post

Thank you!
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