3D Character Dialogue Mapping

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Sun Aug 06, 2017 4:18 am Post

Geez, after looking at this, I now want Scrivener to be making 3D interactive maps of who is talking to who in all my fledgling scripts!

Character Network Visualization
http://sail.usc.edu/mica/project_pages/character_network_visualization.html

There is a write up in the New York Times on the underlying study that produced those snazzy 3D diagrams.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/04/arts/diversity-films-women-race.html


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Sun Aug 06, 2017 8:55 am Post

When I've got my head around the stuff these bar chart thingies Image are supposed to be telling me, I'll 'ave a look at Image There's got t' be a 'Dummies'' or 'Idiots Guide'' out there somewhere :? :(
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Sun Aug 06, 2017 1:44 pm Post

The diagram Jedi merely looks at the left one and says, "Ah yes, I saw that movie. So sad about Robin Williams."
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Sun Aug 06, 2017 2:00 pm Post

Come-on vick... it's just connect the dots with no numbers!
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Mon Aug 07, 2017 1:09 am Post

Sure, shaping nodes for gender and sizing them for amount of dialogue is just okay. The part I thought was nifty was that they had analyzed the scripts in such a way as to be able to draw connecting lines between characters who were in dialogue with each other. Come on, that's just neat. (And they used it as a factor in their algorithm for determining the centrality of a character -- not to mention using it to make the spiffy interactive 3D "dialogue molecules".)
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Mon Aug 07, 2017 7:41 am Post

gr wrote:Sure, shaping nodes for gender and sizing them for amount of dialogue is just okay. The part I thought was nifty was that they had analyzed the scripts in such a way as to be able to draw connecting lines between characters who were in dialogue with each other. Come on, that's just neat. (And they used it as a factor in their algorithm for determining the centrality of a character -- not to mention using it to make the spiffy interactive 3D "dialogue molecules".)


The bit about passing the Bechdel test was nice too.
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Mon Aug 07, 2017 7:44 am Post

Nahh ... think I’ll stick to my £0.37p faux Moleskin Notebook, pencils and eraser. :( :?
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Mon Aug 07, 2017 1:37 pm Post

vic-k wrote:Nahh ... think I’ll stick to my £0.37p faux Moleskin Notebook, pencils and eraser. :( :?

What? No more Jameson?

Are you feeling ok?
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Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:21 pm Post

I can't decide whether the best book title to steal from this is Just Connect the Dots With No Numbers, or What, No Jameson?

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Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:25 pm Post

Ahab wrote:I can't decide whether the best book title to steal from this is Just Connect the Dots With No Numbers, or What, No Jameson?

Might I suggest: What?! No Jameson?! Just Connect the Dots with No Numbers

I think that captures the real feel.
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Mon Aug 07, 2017 5:46 pm Post

It is a fascinating sort of gizmo. Couldn't resist an urge to ask for a diagram of The Fisher King, and for as much as I could figure it out — not a terribly lot — it was good. But still...

You do realize, don't you, that setting this sort of thing free on the forum is liable to provoke several requests from ostensibly sane persons that this feature be incorporated into Scrivener?

And Vic, perhaps you can help me with this one. For a recent birthday, one of my sons presented a bottle of 12-year old Red Breast. My dilemma is this. Am I justified in continuing to pour the Jameson Black Barrel for guests, or must I share with them the RB?

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Mon Aug 07, 2017 6:05 pm Post

Doesn't that depend on the guest?
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Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:45 am Post

PJS wrote:And Vic, perhaps you can help me with this one. For a recent birthday, one of my sons presented a bottle of 12-year old Red Breast. My dilemma is this. Am I justified in continuing to pour the Jameson Black Barrel for guests, or must I share with them the RB?
Jaysen wrote:Doesn't that depend on the guest?
To answer Jaysen first: no guest warrants sharing the likes of the two Holy Amber Distillations Jameson&RB with!

The solution to Phil's dilemma is a no-brainer. It require a modest initial investment of about $40 on a couple
Image of these,

and a bottle of Image paint stripper. Split the Bells paint stripper between the two crystal decanters, and when a whisky/whiskey connoisseur invades your space, give them a choice of Jameson (Bells :twisted:) from that decanter, or, a glass of RB (Bells :twisted:) from t'other decanter, with the accompanying caveat, that your palate must be jaundiced, because you can't tell the difference twixt one or t'other, and that they both taste like paint stripper to you. Best to have couple of bottles of Aldi's cheap Australian wine to hand, as an alternative to the paint stripper for the guest.
Of course, it goes without saying, you must keep the legit Holy Amber Distillations somewhere safe and out of view of prying, covetous eyes. :evil:

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Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:11 pm Post

Vic —

As usual, mon ami, you have extracted the crucial — one might say the threatened — element from a situation, set it aside in a safe haven, and replaced it with a bland and dispensable alternative. I shall in future dispense the bland alternative and reserve the crucial element to mine own needs and desires. Merci.

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Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:00 pm Post

There is a slightly cheaper solution... ensure no one ever desires your company. Then it's just you and your bottle(s).

That's my plan.
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