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https://www.theguardian.com/global-deve ... rain-video
Seeing this :roll: has just made a cold, miserable rainy day, warm, sunny and bright! :D
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These days it's good to be reminded that true humanity really exists.
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Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:35 pm Post

matsgz wrote:These days it's good to be reminded that true humanity really exists.
So true! And how often do we see this beautiful facet of human nature, manifest itself in the face of the most horrendous circumstances?
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Mon Dec 26, 2016 3:33 pm Post

Acts of kindness happen more often than you think...

The other day I dropped my wallet unknowingly on a downtown street corner and a man travelled two blocks and a half to give it to me! And no, the wallet was intact, money and all...He said he knew the struggle of losing a wallet, and didn't want me or anyone else to go through that kind of pain. Can you believe that? Friggin Jesus personified.

I think we're all born good; it's the world that gets in the way. And it's up to us to fight the dark side and keep it real yo.

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yosimiti wrote:Acts of kindness happen more often than you think...
Trouble is, they're shrouded by all the viciousness and crap that we're surrounded by. But, nevertheless, heartwarming and inspirational when they do occur. Good luck to your good guy. God luv 'em all.
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vic-k wrote:
yosimiti wrote:Acts of kindness happen more often than you think...
Trouble is, they're shrouded by all the viciousness and crap that we're surrounded by. But, nevertheless, heartwarming and inspirational when they do occur. Good luck to your good guy. God luv 'em all.
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I'm wondering if it's a matter of perception too. I'm of course living in a first-world country and thus my opinion is different from say a beggar in Bombay. But I'm wondering if having a positive outlook on life has anything to do with actually experiencing positive experiences. I'm not sure I believe in the Book of Job, of a god that will treat you like garbage despite your apparent goodness. I'm also not a full on believer in Karma, on the notion that if you do good, it'll come around back to you. Ultimately I think believing in this sort of thing sets up a bad precedent of you doing good things, with an expectation that you'll get a return. You should be good for goodness' sake...

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I think of it as a sort of psychic selection bias. If you look for the positive, you leave less room in your perception (and life) for the negative. If you look for the negative, you leave less room in your perception (and life) for the positive. Everyone is born with the capacity for the positive and the negative, but the negative is always easier, as it flows with entropy. Doing positive requires a conscious choice to invest energy against the heat death of the universe.
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I have a much simpler approach:

If you worry and are negative in advance, just to be ready for any negative things that might occur later on, and the negative things don't happen, you have worried in vain. It was unnecessary to worry and you were miserable in vain.

If you are positive in advance and rejoice at positive things that might occur later on, and the positive things don't happen, you have rejoiced in vain. But then at least you have been happy up until all hell break lose! :D
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lunk wrote:I have a much simpler approach:

If you worry and are negative in advance, just to be ready for any negative things that might occur later on, and the negative things don't happen, you have worried in vain. It was unnecessary to worry and you were miserable in vain.

If you are positive in advance and rejoice at positive things that might occur later on, and the positive things don't happen, you have rejoiced in vain. But then at least you have been happy up until all hell break lose! :D


I can't help but think this has a pessimistic, worst-case scenario bent. But it works sir, it works. :D

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The world abounds with disappointed optimist, and pleasantly surprised pessimist.
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You mean to say that we pleasantly surprised optimists are a minority? :lol:
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yosimiti wrote:I'm wondering if it's a matter of perception too. I'm of course living in a first-world country and thus my opinion is different from say a beggar in Bombay. But I'm wondering if having a positive outlook on life has anything to do with actually experiencing positive experiences. I'm not sure I believe in the Book of Job, of a god that will treat you like garbage despite your apparent goodness. I'm also not a full on believer in Karma, on the notion that if you do good, it'll come around back to you. Ultimately I think believing in this sort of thing sets up a bad precedent of you doing good things, with an expectation that you'll get a return. You should be good for goodness' sake...

devinganger wrote:I think of it as a sort of psychic selection bias. If you look for the positive, you leave less room in your perception (and life) for the negative. If you look for the negative, you leave less room in your perception (and life) for the positive. Everyone is born with the capacity for the positive and the negative, but the negative is always easier, as it flows with entropy. Doing positive requires a conscious choice to invest energy against the heat death of the universe.

lunk wrote:I have a much simpler approach:

If you worry and are negative in advance, just to be ready for any negative things that might occur later on, and the negative things don't happen, you have worried in vain. It was unnecessary to worry and you were miserable in vain.

If you are positive in advance and rejoice at positive things that might occur later on, and the positive things don't happen, you have rejoiced in vain. But then at least you have been happy up until all hell break lose!
yosimiti wrote:I can't help but think this has a pessimistic, worst-case scenario bent. But it works sir, it works.
vic-k wrote:The world abounds with disappointed optimist, and pleasantly surprised pessimist.
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You mean to say that we pleasantly surprised optimists are a minority? :lol:
Do such animals exist? :?

Perhaps it's all just a case of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZbKHDPPrrc
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devinganger wrote:I think of it as a sort of psychic selection bias. If you look for the positive, you leave less room in your perception (and life) for the negative. If you look for the negative, you leave less room in your perception (and life) for the positive. Everyone is born with the capacity for the positive and the negative, but the negative is always easier, as it flows with entropy. Doing positive requires a conscious choice to invest energy against the heat death of the universe.


I'm not sure chaos in synonymic with evil. Chaos, in many instances can be beautiful. I'm wondering -- dare I say it -- if the same can apply to negativity. For all you philosophy folks out there I'm currently reading Immanuel Kant's Critique of Judgment; essentially his thoughts on the experience of the sublime and beautiful. Kantian sublimity is essentially the idea of pleasure in pain. A case in point, if you watch a thunderstorm from your room window, despite the experience (a rainstorm) being a fundamentally negative experience, you're left with a pleasurable sense of awe and thus the feeling of the sublime.

But I'm sure I'm boring you folks with this dribble so I'll stop here. Still, I think it's food for thought.

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So ... you're stood in the middle of the prairie, and y' know ... y' just know y're gonna be struck by lightning any second. How you respond will depend upon whether the lightning is positively charged, or negatively charged ... won't it?
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yosimiti wrote:
devinganger wrote:I think of it as a sort of psychic selection bias. If you look for the positive, you leave less room in your perception (and life) for the negative. If you look for the negative, you leave less room in your perception (and life) for the positive. Everyone is born with the capacity for the positive and the negative, but the negative is always easier, as it flows with entropy. Doing positive requires a conscious choice to invest energy against the heat death of the universe.


I'm not sure chaos in synonymic with evil. Chaos, in many instances can be beautiful. I'm wondering -- dare I say it -- if the same can apply to negativity. For all you philosophy folks out there I'm currently reading Immanuel Kant's Critique of Judgment; essentially his thoughts on the experience of the sublime and beautiful. Kantian sublimity is essentially the idea of pleasure in pain. A case in point, if you watch a thunderstorm from your room window, despite the experience (a rainstorm) being a fundamentally negative experience, you're left with a pleasurable sense of awe and thus the feeling of the sublime.

But I'm sure I'm boring you folks with this dribble so I'll stop here. Still, I think it's food for thought.


I'm not equating entropy with chaos. Maybe that's the disconnect. Taken to its extreme, entropy is massively orderly and egalitarian. :)
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