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Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:09 am Post

garpu wrote:Late to the game...I tend to gravitate towards split-level keyboards. I find my hands ache after using a regular keyboard after awhile. Currently I'm using a Microsoft natural ergonomic keyboard. The thing takes an absolute beating and has had several cups of coffee spilled on it with no adverse effects.

Absolutely hate Microsoft mice, however. (I prefer logitech ones. Microsoft mice don't hold up to hard use, although if you aren't gaming, they probably would be fine.)


I absolutely agree. I've long been a fan of MS natural keyboards and if they had had a mechanical one that would have been my preference so now I'm kinda relearning to use an "ordinary" keyboard. I agree on the mouse side of things too.

Perhaps my best media keyboard and mouse (not for writing) are my Gyration ones in part because the mouse that works even in the air ... 'tis a shame the keyboard went a bit wonky after I left the batteries in too long and they leaked (something it seems no amount of cleaning will resolve).

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Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:30 am Post

Ever since I found out about this Kickstarter (after it had closed, alas), I've been lusting after this:

[url https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ke ... for-seriou]The Model 01: an heirloom-grade keyboard[/url]

I currently have a Unicomp 101 because of their amazing keyswitches, but I do get complaints about how loud the keyboard is. I'd love to find something that keep carpal tunnel at bay like my current keyboard, but is quiet.
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Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:28 pm Post

devinganger wrote:Ever since I found out about this Kickstarter (after it had closed, alas), I've been lusting after this


Still has 6 days to go...?
Does look cool (way cool). Tempted.
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Thu Jul 09, 2015 6:00 pm Post

garpu wrote:Absolutely hate Microsoft mice, however. (I prefer logitech ones. Microsoft mice don't hold up to hard use, although if you aren't gaming, they probably would be fine.)


This must be another "Chevy vs. Ford" thing, right up there with "vi vs. emacs," "chocolate vs. caramel," or "Star Trek vs. Star Wars." I find that Logitech mice, regardless of their physical size, don't fit in my hand -- they all somehow feel too small. Whereas Microsoft mice, even when they're the tiny laptop-sized devices, seem to fit just right.

(And for the record: Ford, vi, both, both.)
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Thu Jul 09, 2015 6:01 pm Post

nom wrote:
devinganger wrote:Ever since I found out about this Kickstarter (after it had closed, alas), I've been lusting after this


Still has 6 days to go...?
Does look cool (way cool). Tempted.


So it does. Too many campaigns I'm keeping track of. Won't be able to donate to this one until after the closing date, so in my mind it was "closed."
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Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:29 am Post

devinganger wrote:
nom wrote:
devinganger wrote:Ever since I found out about this Kickstarter (after it had closed, alas), I've been lusting after this


Still has 6 days to go...?
Does look cool (way cool). Tempted.


So it does. Too many campaigns I'm keeping track of. Won't be able to donate to this one until after the closing date, so in my mind it was "closed."


Your post about the Keyboard Model 01 reminded me of a keyboard I saw promoted at the start of the year: I am seriously interested in the TextBlade. Sadly it looks like they ran into some serious glitches that have delayed delivery of the final product, but I still like the look of it. One day...
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Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:55 pm Post

devinganger wrote:I currently have a Unicomp 101 because of their amazing keyswitches, but I do get complaints about how loud the keyboard is. I'd love to find something that keep carpal tunnel at bay like my current keyboard, but is quiet.


Over the weekend my wife and I were down in Portland, and we picked up a Corsair Gaming K70 keyboard (black with red backlighting). These are based on the Cherry MX Blue switches. So far, it has a good feel with great tactile response and the sound is still gratifyingly clacky, but less than the Unicomp. However, the sale person at Fry's told me that the Cherry MX switches have aftermarket O-rings available (each color is a different thickness) that you can use to pop off the keycaps, add onto the stems, and use to prevent the key from bottoming out on each press. This is supposed to help remove the majority of the noise without removing the tactile response of the switch mechanism.

I ordered a package of the Cherry MX Blue O-rings from Amazon (125 for $15, enough to do the entire keyboard plus have a few spares, .4mm thickness -- apparently, the thickest available so if these are too big I can step down to thinner rings) and should have them Wednesday. I'll let you all know how it works out for me.
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Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:11 pm Post

Whenever I write at a keyboard for a length of time, I will get a Gordian knot in my shoulders. My wife has a heck of a time working the knot out and I can't sleep because of the pain.

She brought home a Kinesis keyboard from work to try. Split in the middle it allows the user to not roll their shoulders in. I got the Mac Bluetooth version. Best money spent in a long time. Amazon.

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Thu Jun 30, 2016 2:02 pm Post

Absolute waste of money!!
All you need is two drops of Jameson, The Holy Amber Distillation, diluted with one drop of Guinness The Ebony Ambrosia, gently spread over the affected area and then licked off by your wife.
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Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:47 pm Post

The future of keyboards most likely will be touchscreens. The new MacBooks are supposed to have Oled touch bars for function keys . My suspicion is that in a couple of years, everyone is going to be typing on glass like on Star Trek TNG...


So hold on to your mechanical keyboards folks cause in a few years you might be able to auction them off for a boatload...

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Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:45 am Post

Yeah, I saw that rumour too. Hope it's a short lived addition to the Mac line-up! At work I use a Lenovo Carbon X1 which has a similar touch strip for the function keys. It's awful. So awful, in fact, that they dropped it from the next release of the model.

But then, with the general direction Apple is taking with it's keyboards and OS, I suspect the (very lovely) Mac I use at home now will be the last one I own. Good job they last for a squillion years!
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Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:23 am Post

If the keys are app sensitive, that is, they change depending on the app, then I can't see it being too bad a thing. We'll have to wait and see.

But certainly, with the new magic keyboard (what a goofy name eh? I mean come on) the keys are getting thinner and thinner, with each iteration requiring less force to type each letter. The final result? A keyboard with no keys...of course, my hope when that happens is that they make it like the MacBook trackpad with haptic feedback, cause typing on glass might be painful.

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Fri Aug 12, 2016 1:34 pm Post

pigfender wrote:Yeah, I saw that rumour too. Hope it's a short lived addition to the Mac line-up! At work I use a Lenovo Carbon X1 which has a similar touch strip for the function keys. It's awful. So awful, in fact, that they dropped it from the next release of the model.

But then, with the general direction Apple is taking with it's keyboards and OS, I suspect the (very lovely) Mac I use at home now will be the last one I own. Good job they last for a squillion years!

I wouldn't mind at all if the function keys became an OLED touchbar; being able to re-label what each function key did in the context of the app that has focus would be really nice, actually. I have to look down at the keyboard to find the right one to tap anyway.

But the idea that we'll all be typing on glass in the near future is ludicrous. You have to have some tactile feedback to tell that your fingers are still on the home row, and that you tapped the right key. Only a physical keyboard can provide that. The proliferation of tablet keyboard cases is evidence enough, for me, that we're not headed into a Star Trek TNG interface nightmare.
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Fri Aug 12, 2016 2:36 pm Post

Haptic feedback dude. That's the future. Just like on the new MacBook trackpad. Just imagine that for every key. You press it and gives a tap back. If they do switch to Star Trek land, it'll make keyboards for the first time programmable and catered towards whatever you want.

A few of my classmates have given up on external keyboards and just write on their iPads using the screen keyboard...so I predict the transition will eventually happen.