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Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:23 pm Post

[quote="Jaysen"]What is my point? phpBB isn't a Mac app, but a web app that is developed for multiple platforms. As such the defaults are, being gentle again, disgusting. KB put more effort into setting up the look and feel than "I" thought was necessary, but he is the consummate customer focused support team and he loves his users. So we have the current theme.

I am sure he will look into the quote button. He is nice like that.

On the "nerd" front, is there still a large need for IT specialists in the remote areas over there?[/quote]
Actually Jaysen, I do appreciate that phpBB is not a Mac app ... and I do know what you mean about people who complain that their Honda doesn't ride like a Bentley ... I've met plenty of them. Keith needn't do anything about it for me ... only if he wants to do something about it 'cos it gets on his nerves. As I say, it's not a major thing for me, I suppose they just stick out 'cos everything else about Scrivener and the forum is so elegant. And I don't let such things get in my way ... after all I do use NeoOffice from time to time and I'd like to say you can hardly get less-mac-like than that but I guess that OpenOffice for one would beat it to that post.

As for nerds needed in remote areas here ... I would advise leaving the remote areas to the Chinese nerds! But there is a pretty big demand for "foreign experts" in various fields to teach in universities, but you have to be prepared to live on a pretty paltry income. It's fine for meeting the cost of living here, unless you have a taste for real luxury or insist on living the way you do back home including eating only western food. But it's not enough to meet any expenses you may continue to have back home. My salary -- with a number of extras that I get for various reasons -- works out at around USD800 per month. I'm entitled to send 30% of that home per year, which, with the cost of living in London being what it is, would put food on the table for a couple of weeks only!

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Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:37 pm Post

Jaysen --

Pic-k on Vic-k?

Not I.

Prolixity and gibberish are widespread, damn near universal. M. le D is no more guilty than the rest of us, and his posts do contribute charm and humor.

[Vic-k: If you do not mean to be charming and humorous, I apologize.]

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Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:46 pm Post

PJS wrote:Glad the forum is restored. At least on my monitor, it's now less cluttered, more inviting. Might be nice to have RSS, but as that's essentially a truncated form of a communication system which is already a truncated form of dialogue, maybe we're better off without -- it if winds up as an IM forum, I may have to plow my playtime back into serious work.


Phil,

You and I are often in agreement, but not on the issue of an RSS feed. To me, it's crucial. I set it up so I may see all the new posts, in their order of entry. Then I skim the headlines and only open the posts that are of interest. Once open, they are full-text, not truncated. Otherwise, I have to examine each forum topic on the main page and guess which ones may be useful. Invariably, I will waste time and miss something important. For example, I rely on forum members to tell me of new software that's useful to writers and researchers. Such mentions don't always appear in the "software by others" section. Bottom line: if we don't get RSS feed soon, I can't use the Scriv forum much longer. Which some may welcome! (Quiet, Vic.)

Droo

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Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:51 pm Post

Droo,

Once you login (check the "Always login" box and you only need to do it every couple of days) and thing click the New Posts crumb just above the forum listing. This will list any threads that have been updated since your last logged in visit. I actually go direct to this link by book marking the page.

Not quite as easy as RSS, but pretty close. You have the added advantage of seeing who the last poster was.

Jaysen

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Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:58 pm Post

Jaysen,

Hey, thanks....great tip!

Droo

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Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:05 pm Post

Um, on second thought, not so great. When I click on the new topics link, I'm taken to the head of that topic, not its tail. So I have to click through all the pages to find the latest Vic gibberish on psychotherapy. In the RSS feed, I always got the latest on a topic right away. I would still prefer that format and hope KB can get to it soon.

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Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:11 pm Post

You can click on the little numbered boxes in the lower left corner of the thread box on the search page to go directly to a page. The last box will always contain the last post. So vic-k's last ramble will be on the "5" box in the Free thread.

I read that and it makes sense to me. I hope it does to you. If not let me know and I will try again.

BTW I am not advocating no RSS, just providing a workaround for now.

Jaysen

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Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:30 pm Post

Regarding the quotes button: that is just the standard prosilver button and I've changed none of the buttons. And I don't want to waste any more time on forum design, as there is a lot to do on Scrivener 1.2. If anyone really feels strongly about it, feel free to edit the button yourself and send it to me - I'll certainly be happy to replace it so long as it still fits in with everything else.

As for the BBCode - strange one, this. It seems that in the posts I have looked at where this wasn't working, "Disable smileys" and "Disable BBCode" were checked at the bottom. Not sure if this is a default setting, but those aren't checked by default as I'm writing this...

And as for RSS - the RSS feed on the old forum was a mod; it's not standard phpBB, and it was for 2.0, not for 3.0. There is a new syndication suite for 3.0 by the same guys, I think (here), but it's only at RC1 at the moment, so I am a little reluctant to install it whilst it is still in the testing phase.

The last week has been a lot of work. Not just on the forum... Just wait until you see what Scrivener 1.2 will bring...

All the best,
Keith

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Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:41 pm Post

Thank goodness we are back on line. I was starting to go into serious withdrawal. The new forum looks great. Glad to not have all those server errors!

Alexandria

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Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:52 pm Post

Droo --

Point taken. My mini-rant was tongue-in-cheek -- and no, I cannot communicate in a straight line, without digressions and asides (and parentheticals), any more than I can eliminate compound words -- and intended only to forestall further minimization of the language (which must not -- obviously, I trust -- be confused with the sensible and sensitive pruning -- editing if you will -- so essential to effective prose).

[This post has not been edited.]

[Clearly.]

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Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:00 pm Post

New forum is gorgeous.

Glad to have everyone back.

:)

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Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:33 pm Post

Damn it, now that you drew my attention to it, it turned out that I didn't like that opening quote without a closing one, either... Hence I changed it.

Now, I just had a "failed to connect to database" error a moment ago when I updated the icon... This worries me a lot. The forum is running a lot more quickly, but I hope the failure to connect to the database for a moment isn't a sign that the old problems are going to return...

Best,
Keith

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Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:49 pm Post

[quote="KB"]There are certain mods I had running on the old forum that I haven't yet had chance to install on the new one, though, so please do be patient - I thought it best just to get things back online.[/quote]

Does this mean certain forum topics? I see we are missing quite a few of the old threads. I'm not pushing or anything, just need clarification. Thanks!

Alexandria

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Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:59 pm Post

No, it has nothing to do with threads. All of the old threads should be here, *but*, as I said in my original post, there were certain problems when updating and some threads may have been truncated. Which threads do you mean? We may just have to live with it, of course, as I'd rather turn to Scrivener 1.2 now...
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Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:18 pm Post

[quote="Jaysen"]You can click on the little numbered boxes in the lower left corner of the thread box on the search page to go directly to a page. The last box will always contain the last post. So vic-k's last ramble will be on the "5" box in the Free thread.[/quote]

Actually, on the New (to you) Topics page, the numbered boxes just take you to the different pages of the thread. If you really want to get to the last post on a thread, you want to click on the document icon next to the last posters name.

--Greg

Forum notes for a post-Scriv-2.x forum-adjusting jag:

a) Yup, BBcode is stubbornly OFF and there seems no way to switch it on (my profile says it should be on by default).

b) On the old forum, subject lines for individual posts defaulted to empty. This seemed less redundant than the current default here which repeats the thread subject string over and over. Something to consider.

P.S. I can see I am going to need a higher resolution graphic now. Are all the avatar graphics rendering larger now?
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